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Biomechanics Project: GRF in Expert vs Novice Batters

October 22nd, 2007 Leave a comment Go to comments
I mentioned last spring that we (myself and a couple classmates) were doing a biomechanics project on the difference between GRF in expert and novice batters, and at the time I didn’t want to bother putting up our results.  The main reason was that it was our first time using the equipment - a force plate and Peak Motus 2-D analysis system – but it is a little more interesting now that I look back at it.  I will be the first to say, however, that this is not something I’d believe to be publishable or anything to that degree.  Just a class project designed to get us familar with the equipment.  Moral of the story:

don’t read into it too much!

OK here goes:

1.) This first graph shows the amount of VERTICAL GRF created by both expert and novice grouns under two conditions – stride and no stride.  The only significant difference was in the stride condition where the novice group, 3 college students in our department, had a much higher vertical GRF.

What threw me off a little was that the expert group, three college hitters, actually had a lower GRF in the no-stride condition.  My only explanation for that, from an observational standpoint, is that their no-stride condition swings seemed closer to what their natural swings would be.  For example, in the stride condition, I literally had to remind them that they needed to lift their front foot off the ground.

2.) The second one simply shows the correlation of bat velocity to GRF.  In both conditions, the novice group showed a high correlation to GRF produced and bat velocity.  Simply put, the more GRF they had, the more bat speed they had.

This was not the case in the expert group.  They showed minimal correlation in both conditions.  What this suggests is that they are relying much less on weight shift in the direction of the pitcher for bat speed production.  I believe the golf study I have (left it at home today, unfortunately) attributed just 10% of club head speed in experts to weight shift, and this would agree with the results here.  In other words, the experts are relying on other means, namely summation of forces from the sequential rotation of body parts – aka kinetic link – to develop bat velocity.

Steve Englishbey got me going a few weeks ago on the topic of Ground Reaction Forces in batting.  While there isn’t a ton of stuff directly pertaining to baseball, I have managed to dig up a couple of studies specifically directed at baseball/softball batting, and there are others as well that deal with other sports (like golf).

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  1. Dave Schwarzman
    October 22nd, 2007 at 17:54 | #1

    Jeff: Can yo uinterpret the data as the novices are using their legs more and weight shifting, vs. the experts using their core and hips to create forward moementum?
    Also did you measure GRF at both legs?
    btw in my latest swings I more generate more ball exit speed and conisistency with no stride.

  2. October 22nd, 2007 at 18:25 | #2

    1.Only measured GRF on the stride leg (just one force plate).

    2. My interpretation – and not just based on these results – is/was that the novices were relying more on lateral movement to create their bat speed. You could see this just by watching the swings (pretty much lunging forward). Take away their stride and bat velocity suffered.

    If I were to do this again “for real” and the results were similar, it might be my contention that no stride training is beneficial for beginners in order to break the reliance on the stride in order to generate bat speed. Then reintroduce or shift focus to the stride as they are better at using their body.

  3. Bob Kaufer
    October 30th, 2007 at 12:51 | #3

    Jeff,

    When looking at the expert group alone, did you see any correlation between increased GFR and batspeed.

    Bob

  4. October 30th, 2007 at 23:01 | #4

    the bat velocities for both groups were about the same in the stride condition, but the bat velocity for the novice group dropped one meter/second more than the expert group.

    bat velocity dipped by about 7% for the expert group when they went to no-stride, and fell 14% for novice group when going to no-stride from stride condition.

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